00:00:00: Hi there, I'm Usheen Lune and welcome to the Audio Talks podcast presented to you by Harman.
00:00:05: Now this is the podcast where we explore The Sound of Tomorrow!
00:00:09: And today we are here in the Brat Store Young Bud's Brat store In Denmark Street in Soho at the heart of London Town... ...and We Are Going To Meet Some People Who Are Empowering Creatives Through Audio Innovation.. ..I am absolutely thrilled to be joined By This Power Trio Right Here!
00:00:24: We've got Bobby Bradley & Elle Shoal from Special Music Projects.
00:00:28: How You Doing?
00:00:29: I'm very good.
00:00:30: Thank you
00:00:30: absolutely brilliant.
00:00:32: and L how about your good self?
00:00:34: Excellent, I loved power trio.
00:00:37: This is right here and rounding off our trio of awesomeness We've got the great Ed Jackson from Harman & JBL.
00:00:44: How did devil are you my friend?
00:00:46: Very Good
00:00:47: Fabulous alright.
00:00:47: so i thought we'd start with a really intriguing question And it's one that im very intrigued About.
00:00:52: Im looking at yourself L With That Fantastic T-Shirt You Have On.
00:00:55: What Exactly Is BRAT?
00:00:59: BRAT, well it stands for Beautifully Romanticised Accidentally Traumatized as I'm repping here which is Dom Youngblood's creation.
00:01:10: He actually had that vision like several years ago when he was just spray painting on the back of jackets and somehow its evolved into this crazy physical space venue shop art form.
00:01:27: We're running, we are making happen.
00:01:31: So yeah it's a fashion and lifestyle brand but really its about the community around what that brings to the fashion.
00:01:42: so we always say thats just a medium that were used like express ourselves.
00:01:47: actually at the core of it is people bringing together all these amazing people who I know doing cool shit getting them in one place and making that tangible.
00:01:59: So it's more than just a t-shirt!
00:02:01: I
00:02:02: love us,
00:02:03: That is amazing And It Is Such A Cool Space.
00:02:04: We're Here In The Basement In Denmark Street The Brat Cave!
00:02:09: That's
00:02:09: Fantastic Absolutely.
00:02:11: the Place Is Covered With Graffiti.
00:02:12: There'S Even Graffiti All Over The Pool Table Over There And we've Actually Got Some Very Nice Pro Audio Equipment Here Courtesy Of Our Dear Friends At JBL.
00:02:21: be jumping into that in a little while.
00:02:22: So this is possibly one of the coolest places in London, you could possibly work and it's a work of art, fashion or creativity.
00:02:31: but I'm wondering what kind of path do have to follow?
00:02:35: To actually end up here working!
00:02:37: And I'd love to start with yourself Bobby.
00:02:40: was there anything that bought your hair would say how did you run the Brad Cave?
00:02:46: Yeah... It's not necessarily a like formal path, but I think it's just knowing the right people and being around the right People.
00:02:59: And wanting kind of the same thing or experiencing similar things and having a similar mentality.
00:03:07: Like i always say in... The main thing off-brat on what we're trying to do this basement space with the clothing event is expression.
00:03:18: And like freedom of expression, whether that's wearing the clothes and feeling good in them.
00:03:22: Whether it is playing music in a basement or just being a fan off the music and letting go... It feels very much like an expression.
00:03:33: I've fallen into this by knowing they're right people.
00:03:35: but The reason why i have stayed so passionate about it is because everyone on that same page.
00:03:42: Yeah, you found your tribe.
00:03:44: That's really inspiring.
00:03:45: I love it.
00:03:46: and Elle how about yourself?
00:03:47: You're creative director of Bratt like.
00:03:50: How did you end up being the creative director?
00:03:52: well actually similar.
00:03:54: Well kind of similarly.
00:03:57: so i used to work at a pub called The Holy Arms from sure you've all heard Of It in Camden Town.
00:04:02: its very much Like A part of our story And then Its like Our spiritual home away From Home.
00:04:09: So I worked there for ages Dom there at his young lad, at his enemy awards after party when he had this little yellow skirt on and blazer.
00:04:23: And we just immediately became friends.
00:04:25: Don was like you're a fucking witch!
00:04:27: You are...and then we were mates for years and I was doing my own clothing line called Flower Girl.
00:04:41: It featured the logo from a golf club in the eighties called The Brack Cave, which is like a bat and then it's got some cool a hand-drawn letter in on it.
00:04:54: And Dom was like, that's fucking sick.
00:04:56: and then he was like wait I need someone to design my clothing line.
00:05:01: do you want to do that?
00:05:03: Do i wanna come be creative director of my best mate's clothing brand in Soho?
00:05:09: yeah probably yeah I do!
00:05:12: And from there we just built outwards... It was me and you at the beginning wasn't?
00:05:16: We always say me and Bobby literally built this place.
00:05:19: Well, you as well actually?
00:05:20: Me, Bobby & Edge built the
00:05:22: place!
00:05:23: The
00:05:23: power trio built this space.
00:05:26: So yeah... And then from there we've just like expanded our network of amazing people.
00:05:32: so now my best mate Nancy she was making the cushions and now she's our senior designer a friend of her friend Amber, she works on like socials and it just keeps growing and expanding.
00:05:49: And yeah that's the heart forgot what the question was.
00:05:53: I know you've answered it perfectly, i love that story!
00:05:55: That's
00:05:55: brilliant!!
00:05:56: It's all about serendipity connection and kind of connecting with people who are on the same wavelength above all.
00:06:01: Massively.
00:06:01: And
00:06:01: its going
00:06:01: to brought this incredible thing which is absolutely unique and speaking in which coming over here good self-head now... You must have one of the most interesting jobs in pro audio Biggest best clubs in Ibiza.
00:06:17: You work with the biggest, Best churches In The world and the biggest religions And you've worked With the Bratt store right here in Denmark Street.
00:06:25: So talk to us a bit about how you came To be working Here?
00:06:29: What was your kind of path Into this really unique space in Pro Audio?
00:06:33: Coming into here is I saw... I feel weird calling him Dom Youngblood But Dom did an article in one Of National papers About How he's opening A venue.
00:06:45: That's what I do and I did a...I'm not usually very good on social media, but thought right.
00:06:51: I am going to push the get in touch with someone.
00:06:54: I managed again touched with Dom's management who introduced me to Al And came down and met her there and it was just instantly like I'm doing this.
00:07:06: Just embrace of chaos because i think that next bit would be oh yeah we're doing an opening thing three weeks time or something like that.
00:07:13: I think
00:07:13: it
00:07:14: was a week!
00:07:17: And yeah, all of the sudden just jumped straight in.
00:07:21: but part is... It's the energy and its' just fun thing to be around everyone about technology and music.
00:07:30: if you don't have that energy and chaotic good feeling then your missing out on something.
00:07:38: i think thats got it inspired here.
00:07:41: i love it.
00:07:41: that's brilliant.
00:07:42: so again about finding people around the same wavelength and you know I think.
00:07:46: It seems like there is a certain magnetism between all of your to come together make this happen in week, bring all this stuff and it's going to be perfect.
00:07:58: So that, that's just beautiful but... It is also a space for education And For folks To learn about pro-audio & to learn new things.
00:08:05: You're kind of balancing together.
00:08:07: you know fans & music & culture & education in really unique way.
00:08:13: I mean how do you approach this In terms the original vision?
00:08:17: What was your original vision behind The Space and what its meant to accomplish?
00:08:21: The original vision became like a genuine third space where people could come and just exist.
00:08:29: They don't have to buy something, they don't even have to pay for coffee to be here.
00:08:34: It's somewhere so that you can meet or hang out.
00:08:38: There is the music element.
00:08:39: it almost looks like a bit of shrine to young blood down there.
00:08:42: but also we see people using this to discover new music.
00:08:48: sometimes when we let our kids play through the speakers on their phone and they listen to their own music down here.
00:08:54: And it's like an actual hangout space in the daytime, and we do see lots of fans will come in... They'll be like is anyone downstairs Bobby?
00:09:03: And Bob would say yeah, such-and-such is down there!
00:09:05: It's a proper... Then also we've got The Music Side of It as discussed, then the Education side too so that we use this space for... We'll talk more about them.
00:09:17: that side of the education, but for like workshops we've had a zine making workshop down here.
00:09:24: Has The Badge Making one happened yet?
00:09:25: No!
00:09:26: That's happening soon... A badge-making one.
00:09:29: and we also have within the Youngblood universe YBHQ which is our well it's Youngbloods fan platform so that behind the scenes content and access to these free workshops where they can come into The Brat Cave, make something with like...the team.
00:09:53: So it's about community bringing people together in a really fucking cool space!
00:10:02: Yeah I feel basically just following what Elle said of Hanging around Soho and going into places in Soho.
00:10:11: And look, I'm young so i've only really experienced it the last like five six years but does sometimes feel... You're walking somewhere and everybody's a little bit jaded and judgy looking you up-and down.
00:10:24: what are your wearing should be here?
00:10:27: Like you sat at a cafe looking around am I these lot of wearin' this and I can't afford that or haven't bought yet and I might meant to be her And me personally experiencing that and loads of shops in Soho, just generally I was like...I don't want people to feel like that.
00:10:45: Don't get me wrong i might be tired or not give you as much energy but my ambition with this shop is whatever the fuck your look like wherever where u come from what you can afford to wear whatever.
00:11:01: Just coming hang out.
00:11:03: it doesn't need to be like, oh am I cool enough?
00:11:05: It's just all ages whatever.
00:11:08: We're coming out and feel safe Free to be in it and it's a pretty cool space.
00:11:14: To be able to just come on and hang.
00:11:17: Yeah,
00:11:18: what I love is that we have like the young blood fans come who are like actually they aren't all The mix of ages but people will make a pilgrimage here too You know.
00:11:27: leave a message for Dom or whatever then?
00:11:29: We also have like our mates who were in bands hanging out or changing their guitar strings down here And we'll have friends Who are modeling for us or wherever.
00:11:41: It's like a real Motley crew of people coming through the doors, which is sick.
00:11:45: That's what we wanted, you
00:11:46: know phenomenal.
00:11:47: So you are actually building a genuine community and it's very inclusive.
00:11:51: Actually grassroots like we did it as well.
00:11:56: for all his Like fame.
00:11:58: now especially in this last year he's got likes super famous.
00:12:02: He's like here putting the work in.
00:12:05: It's cool, it's really cool.
00:12:07: That's awesome.
00:12:08: and like how do you want people to feel when they leave here after?
00:12:10: They've experienced for the first time.
00:12:12: what's that takeaway?
00:12:15: Hmm
00:12:16: interesting I wanted them to feel part of summer.
00:12:20: yeah Like not alone.
00:12:23: You know which is the whole ethos behind The Youngblood fan base as well as brah.
00:12:29: Yeah, I want him to be a part of some up about you.
00:12:33: There's a tricky question.
00:12:34: part of his good For me, being also... I mean same as you are like artsy and artistic.
00:12:42: I want it to potentially be a space And i know a lot of kids who come down here and then you know send me their music and wanna play downstairs.
00:12:48: but maybe just feel a little bit more Like they've..I don't know.
00:12:55: Maybe express some or more?
00:12:57: I dunno I'll come back to that.
00:12:58: That's
00:12:59: the good yeah.
00:13:01: They got a bit themselves out.
00:13:04: Yeah totally
00:13:06: Yeah, you're really helping them open something up and kind of experience new things in a very... Really genuine way I think.
00:13:13: It's it's very special but this brings me over to your good self Ed.
00:13:17: now the world of pro audio.
00:13:18: You know if you see like a mixing desk or at the back great speakers here.
00:13:23: It can sometimes feel overwhelming, it may be intimidating because you know if...
00:13:27: Yeah I get intimidated all the time!
00:13:30: Right absolutely so but your making is actually accessible and fun.
00:13:35: interesting what's your approach to opening up the world of Pro Audio for folks who are visiting in this great community?
00:13:44: And it's quite a big question, because you're talking to a whole lot of different people on all the different levels.
00:13:50: I'm certainly one thing that goes back to what these two are saying.
00:13:53: is they if i'm coming in here to do A bit of work setting It up for a bit of works or tidying out there will be people sitting Here who we'll just start chatting with.
00:14:02: and then yeah There was quiet wide range demographic quite Wide age range but some of them were quite young and They're Just interested in chatting about it.
00:14:11: so he'd just talk inner You know, as supportive a way you can.
00:14:15: And then part of it is when your trying to get someone to work with the system bit more and I'm helping Bobby become y'know The lead sound engineer here... ...and sometimes what i just actually have to let him make his mistake because that's how he will learn properly.
00:14:33: But on the other hand He knows we need to look at something
00:14:39: later.
00:14:39: Yeah, I think Ed's Deffo made it like super accessible for us.
00:14:43: Especially me because Bobby plays music and is in bands and mixes music.
00:14:49: have all your drum plugins and shit.
00:14:51: but i don't so.
00:14:53: For me It's like its super technical an outside of my world.
00:14:57: But eds like make it really easy for us to understand every element of it.
00:15:03: Like, even I could probably set up the sound desk because Ed's so thorough that he was like showing us everything.
00:15:10: Which... The story that we're telling you about is a boring story but what i think it's interesting Is when we first um set this room out
00:15:19: of- I liked his story!
00:15:20: Yeah yeah cuz ed was right in there.
00:15:23: I was adamant to have these massive speakers either side this bit, and that should be the stage over there where that little room is.
00:15:34: Very very strong opinion about it.
00:15:37: If wasn't obvious I have very strong opinions generally but yeah i was adamant.
00:15:43: so we did it that way um... And It Was Fine for The Launch Day went fine!
00:15:49: After launch day which-
00:15:50: It's fine for people who are upstairs and weren't working down yet.
00:15:53: Yeah yeah!
00:15:55: Fine For Me!
00:15:57: After That Which We Had Five or six bands played down here in the middle of summer, crazy hot.
00:16:03: Crazy busy!
00:16:05: Ed was here all day, Bobby you were working upstairs.
00:16:09: We were running around like headless chickens.
00:16:11: After that, Ed's so dead set.
00:16:17: The best way to set it up would be this way which is currently.
00:16:22: He after those bands moved his speakers and called me down and said come have a look This is better.
00:16:28: And as soon he did it, I was like yeah It's better fuck sake.
00:16:33: But now we've kept and i think that just so.
00:16:36: That Just speaks to Like Ed's part of the way that Ed has jumped in been a Part Of The team and his passion for making this space?
00:16:45: The best that can be In the same Way that We do
00:16:48: and i Think part of Is because its such an unusual venue.
00:16:52: You got people coming down here To hang out.
00:16:53: you Got People Coming Down Here training sessions about other things.
00:16:59: It was key to make it so that is easy to work with.
00:17:01: out says again, putting the monitors on the ceiling when we do you remember where he spoke about?
00:17:06: That sounds bonkers but if works because it means that people can use this space.
00:17:11: Bobby can come in and do a stage set up very quickly.
00:17:14: cause your not pulling speakers are you're having to worry about plug thing then etc.
00:17:20: Yeah its like ready-to go.
00:17:22: yeah I love it.
00:17:26: You feel excited the minute you walk in here, but i'm wondering because...you've kind of been on this journey together and Ed you spoke about young people being here just coming up asking questions.
00:17:35: have you ever had a light bulb moment happen when you're demonstrating something or setting something up?
00:17:41: And if you see that click!
00:17:45: Yes, but on so many different levels and to think of a particular time It's more about my light bulb moments when I sort of think oh no that was the right thing to say.
00:17:56: And then with The audio world is it?
00:18:00: So many different ways are talking
00:18:02: about
00:18:03: Different things that you're trying to achieve.
00:18:07: To be able cover it all as one person or conversation is sort of huge, I think was made a bit easier for me work with these guys because i've realised I don't know everything and coming back having my journey from the start too just trying have fun with them.
00:18:24: That's most important thing embrace chaos Fantastic.
00:18:29: Light bulbs everywhere.
00:18:30: you're saying that's just beautiful, great and...
00:18:32: Neon lightbulbs!
00:18:35: Big neon light bulbs.
00:18:36: I love it.
00:18:37: so this is not my first time in Denmark street.
00:18:40: i used to come here into the nineties believe it or not by friends.
00:18:42: oh yes used to Come To The Twelve bar club And Hangout.
00:18:45: It Was Just A Great Place For Music But That was a very different Time.
00:18:48: There Were No Phones.
00:18:49: There Were You Know Podcasting Wasn't Really A Thing?
00:18:52: So Here We Are At Twenty.
00:18:53: Twenty Six And Young People Today Have Access tools than they've ever had before in terms of making music, making podcasts, making content.
00:19:03: I mean do we think that these new technological tools are changing what it means to be a creator?
00:19:09: In twenty-twenty
00:19:10: six?
00:19:10: It definitely is and in some ways its' making easier but also giving people so much choice.
00:19:19: you can get blinded by the decisions Lonely or a bit isolating, so the important thing is being able to bring people into the same room and actually have that human contact which just as an important thing about music finding your tribe.
00:19:39: Being able talk with other people.
00:19:41: I think thats what having real space for people can come in too.
00:19:45: its important And certainly working these days has been brilliant.
00:19:50: seeing this energy going through it makes it easier get excited about supporting it.
00:19:57: And so, got a new present for you guys!
00:20:00: A
00:20:00: present?!
00:20:01: A present?
00:20:03: We are...
00:20:03: Oh my gosh what is that?
00:20:05: It's
00:20:06: this guitar amp thing we were talking about.
00:20:08: Oh shit!
00:20:10: So
00:20:11: this the New JBL Band Box and What we wanted to do was put couple of these in.
00:20:19: so all people coming down.
00:20:21: if anyone wants play the guitar through perfect little guitar amp, it's got all the effects on that.
00:20:27: It has a great app!
00:20:28: I just pressed on so...
00:20:30: You'll see if you're learning the technical stuff is great!
00:20:34: Getting out of your comfort zone and then people can Bluetooth their own music to it and they will cut-out either vocals or guitars or drums.
00:20:47: So people come down be learning songs.
00:20:52: Again, you mentioned Denmark Street.
00:20:53: And Denmark street is amazing but as someone that's starting off into the musician it can be a bit intimidating going in to one of those shops.
00:21:01: because again feel right.
00:21:03: am I ever gonna able buy anything?
00:21:05: Am i allowed touch from my guitars cause I haven't got money for it.
00:21:09: so the idea talking about Bobby we will get a couple of guitars down here and make easier.
00:21:14: people come down play get confidence then maybe there They're taking their journey a bit further from that.
00:21:23: So cool, the kids are going to fucking love these.
00:21:26: Oh they were amazing!
00:21:28: Sometimes we had some of our regulars come down and do karaoke ones...they brought their own karaoke machine And we
00:21:36: like
00:21:37: sing in town.
00:21:39: Can you do it?
00:21:40: This would be perfect
00:21:41: for them as well.
00:21:42: There'll
00:21:43: be learning Fleabag.
00:21:45: I'm sure there
00:21:46: will be.
00:21:50: Oh, that's so cool.
00:21:52: I think people will love it.
00:21:54: to be honest.
00:21:55: Our mates all of you are going to be fiddling
00:21:58: with my favorite toy.
00:22:00: what learn first?
00:22:02: well considering no flea bag.
00:22:06: another young blood song.
00:22:07: yeah What's a shredder?
00:22:10: and Adam Warrington Shredder?
00:22:12: I love heaven.
00:22:14: Love it.
00:22:15: So cool.
00:22:16: Oh my God.
00:22:16: Excellent.
00:22:17: And Ed, what's the name?
00:22:18: It's the Bandbox Trio.
00:22:20: Bandbox trio are right folks, amazing!
00:22:23: This is just beautiful.
00:22:24: I look forward to hearing what's going to happen down here with that band box trio.
00:22:27: That's just fantastic.
00:22:28: but you know this may be a good example of the kind of balance your striking here.
00:22:32: it's obviously an artist-led pop up space...it's a space for community..It's a place where people come.
00:22:38: But you're kinda balancing entertainment and education as well because its about unlocking these new skills and experiencing things.
00:22:45: How do approach getting that balance right?
00:22:50: Hmm.
00:22:50: I mean, it's important that... It all done in whoever is coming here's pace.
00:23:00: so they have the opportunity to try out these things but nobody's forcing them or you don't book a session and feel pressure just open and free which i think not be like a big fat liberal, but I think that is how the um which i am by the way.
00:23:21: But that's...I think that's how everybody learns best is being given the tools to experiment with and be let you know let loose to do it however they want Which has..I mean thats kind of-
00:23:33: And also have people at the same level.
00:23:35: are them making the mistakes as well makes apart the fun?
00:23:39: Yeah definitely!
00:23:41: It's like community thing again of like having the support around them to encourage them, but also teach what they might have done wrong.
00:23:50: I'm thinking about learning a guitar part and be like no do it this
00:23:55: way.
00:23:55: And not being intimidated?
00:23:56: I think you said Demo Street is great but it can't be like Jimi Hendrix used to buy his guitar here or Jimi Pagedal buys his guitars from Regents!
00:24:05: What am i doing
00:24:06: here?!
00:24:07: We saw Jimmy Page, didn't
00:24:09: we?
00:24:09: Did you?
00:24:09: No.
00:24:10: Maybe I didn't see Jimmy Page
00:24:12: like ages ago.
00:24:13: You did
00:24:14: if I saw Jimmy page out of freaked out.
00:24:18: But yeah It's not being intimidating.
00:24:20: and i think Like he said pace taking at their own pace And also like I don't know what it is about this space and look like I haven't grown up as young with fun have known Dom.
00:24:28: so it's a different kind Of side of the you know.
00:24:33: but I think even as a Jungbu fan coming down here, and like just... Even if they're by themselves looking around them being like oh these are my people.
00:24:41: They write in the note that i can relate to this music is already feeling like Oh!
00:24:47: I'm gonna space out.. Like I am safe.
00:24:50: And even If I don't know anyone Here There's People all Around who have got The same mentalities me writing on the wall And I Just Think That Does Make It Less Intimidating You Know?
00:25:01: Writing On The Wall Thing Happened.
00:25:02: So So it was spontaneously, yeah.
00:25:05: It's really bought.
00:25:06: the venue to life is the best decoration that you could have and if You spend some time just going through The wall and seeing some of this stuff people written.
00:25:14: there's a really beautiful stuff.
00:25:16: Yeah Which again not
00:25:18: as he said I looked up at.
00:25:21: one thing says gimp on.
00:25:22: another one says I actually might even be too much wearing.
00:25:28: Obviously someone taller if it was on the ceiling, wasn't
00:25:30: you?
00:25:33: Generally we were saying that young blood fans are all really well behaved and they've taken this letter that we'd written saying please don't write on the speakers... They haven't done at all!
00:25:45: You can see literally every other part of this room is covered in writing Even the floor over by the stairs.
00:25:53: obviously don't want them to write on the speakers.
00:25:55: No,
00:25:55: no you've had a change of heart!
00:25:57: Oh really?
00:25:58: We are we're about to open up the speaker's as fair game for
00:26:01: writing.
00:26:01: Really?!
00:26:02: Oh my god they're gonna
00:26:03: go fucking nuts!
00:26:04: I don't know if
00:26:05: you know what your saying.
00:26:05: look at
00:26:06: that pool table!
00:26:09: Well yeah and i think it sort means were accepting not taking the speakers
00:26:13: back.
00:26:13: so... That is why we did another gift
00:26:18: or maybe there'll be more more valuable, the more of a collector's item.
00:26:23: Actually
00:26:24: yeah we'll get
00:26:27: Don to sign one of them!
00:26:28: Me and
00:26:28: Bobby all signed him!
00:26:30: Yes
00:26:30: please definitely but like you know...you've spoken previously just about embracing chaos and kind of that aspect of serendipity in just seeing what happens when you got these cool creative people together.
00:26:44: was there anything that surprised Once this happened that you weren't expecting and it's just like, wow they've done this.
00:26:50: I mean the writing is something.
00:26:52: was there anything else?
00:26:54: That's a good question.
00:26:57: what...I mean every day Is a new surprise.
00:27:01: yeah honestly yes i think It was Just kind of repeating myself there but it Was so amazing to see People come together immediately Like as soon As we open people are hanging out down here.
00:27:16: I think part of it is the positivity among fans as a whole.
00:27:21: And certainly, I was wondering whether opening up place like this would be possible to invite trouble or some sort of negativity.
00:27:29: but that's not happened in The Slightest which makes quite special thing for me gone that, you know had any issues at all.
00:27:38: Yeah
00:27:38: we never.
00:27:39: it's because everyone looks after each other.
00:27:42: Everyone
00:27:42: is very well behaved and genuinely cares about each other.
00:27:45: when the fans come in they are respectful.
00:27:48: if you say look don't can we just not to do though?
00:27:50: They'll be like no thats fine.
00:27:51: yeah so its all makes a bit special.
00:27:56: I've worked in venues of my working life.
00:27:59: this is different.
00:28:00: yeah
00:28:01: indeed i mean Like You would Be Working With.
00:28:03: you Know Enormous stadiums and huge venues, like very large...
00:28:07: And tiny venues as well.
00:28:12: Indeed!
00:28:12: What are some of the challenges about working with a smaller venue here?
00:28:15: in terms delivering that pro audio?
00:28:17: It depends on what's happening on stage or what is happening to the audience.
00:28:22: We do try not have it too loud because it's quite a small room and I think that even though we've got quite a lot of PA here, is more so you can run its quality as opposed to slamming people against the wall.
00:28:36: We have had couple learning experiences over different shows with a couple visiting sound engineers which maybe got bit too excited about The Great Big PA.
00:28:46: So, certainly you have to be careful of and again there's going to quite a wide range age groups in here.
00:28:56: Certainly for the opening day they were some quiet young children in her.
00:29:02: at that point I was like right i'm really managing sound engineer now because during their days your got to be carefull about it.
00:29:10: And so certainly the sound pressure levels are something we're conscious off.
00:29:14: but then other bit is just make sure hear everything clearly.
00:29:18: You know, if you've got a drum kit there just like get the vocals up and then leave it to it.
00:29:23: sometimes less is more.
00:29:25: yeah.
00:29:26: could you actually kind of walk us through this setup?
00:29:28: here I mean what kind of speakers do we have?
00:29:29: And so
00:29:30: this is uh... The SRX-Ninehundred, the SRX Nine-O-Six which is our sort of mid range powered line array that comes in at this level and certainly for a venue a little bit over-spect for what people would usually put in, but it looks absolutely amazing.
00:29:53: And I think that when we put that
00:29:54: in you were very
00:29:55: much like yeah... That's the speakers that we want.
00:29:58: and then it means that you can run at a nice level and still have that clarity!
00:30:05: Then the monitors used the PRX-Nine Hundred and again its all powered to make it easier.
00:30:14: And again, about that clarity.
00:30:16: About getting the vocal above everything else I think is biggest challenge in a small room like this.
00:30:23: The rest of the band are up at level and it's the singers which find it hardest to be able do their show In a venue like this, those are the people you've got to support right at start.
00:30:36: It was a sound engineer.
00:30:37: get it so they're comfortable.
00:30:38: They can hear themselves You can hear the vocal across third rest of the mix and then Everything else?
00:30:44: You were sort of putting in where it fits and why he needed.
00:30:47: yeah
00:30:48: Yeah.
00:30:48: And when you say powered that means the amp is actually in the same speakers.
00:30:52: all right yes Okay Is there any other techs particularly?
00:30:56: Everything's important too.
00:30:59: They're all tiny little computers now, so each one is like a power bit goes into network.
00:31:04: compared to speakers when I started off everything has got the same much smarter and you are talking about technology moving on.
00:31:10: yes it's big deal And almost need be in network engineer as an audio engineer but that's One of things we trying help people understand.
00:31:21: That's transferable skill.
00:31:26: We always say that nobody loves speakers more than Ed.
00:31:30: This man loved speakers, and now we love speakers!
00:31:34: It's infectious
00:31:37: with.
00:31:37: every band played here has been like the sound was fucking amazing
00:31:41: one of the first things people said also.
00:31:43: I think it is so important.
00:31:45: i mean we played a gig in much bigger space then.
00:31:50: this was not an enjoyable experience and I think having a set up like this is so maybe, not rewarding but satisfying for an artist to play with.
00:32:07: And also it's such an opportunity for small space and granted we will have bigger artists come do strip back sets.
00:32:14: We had Return To Dust who are becoming quite big in America Play A Strip Back Set But the aim is to have bands that were literally up-and-coming would play a fifty to one hundred cap.
00:32:25: but the speakers are like, I don't know what they call it.
00:32:27: The ones on the stands that just... They're
00:32:30: not all speakers!
00:32:31: Yeah
00:32:34: and
00:32:35: again when someone's on Stage like this and they're learning as a sound engineer one of the things that you should be doing is Making them feel comfortable in some ways.
00:32:43: The most important thing Is getting the stage sound right so?
00:32:47: They can hear themselves, and they can enjoy playing.
00:32:51: And then you worry about what's going on afterwards.
00:32:53: Yeah, and it does much.
00:32:55: people skills are making people feel comfortable.
00:32:58: there's nothing
00:32:58: else.
00:32:59: Often you don't hear that from Sand Edges.
00:33:02: It's one of the first things I said to you after our first meeting is like, thank you for not explaining everything so fully but never patronizing or thinking that i dont want know because im on a creative team and am very much a girl dressed in blonde hair and stupid lipstick.
00:33:22: So often people will dismiss that But Edge never ever does.
00:33:26: he treats everyone Exactly the same and makes everyone comfortable, which I think is really valuable.
00:33:32: And something that we give a shit about as well.
00:33:34: you know
00:33:34: big time
00:33:36: Absolutely.
00:33:36: The music industry has very checkered past in terms of You know treating Everyone equally with respect?
00:33:43: It's always great to hear positive examples Of people doing it right.
00:33:46: so thank you for That absolutely spot on.
00:33:49: but i'm wondering Is there You know, you've kind of balanced this beautiful space where the audio isn't overwhelming.
00:33:55: It's very high quality it's very powerful but it's not overstated.
00:33:59: Was there anything else that you had to take into consideration in terms of balancing out?
00:34:03: This community space for people feel comfortable and respected.
00:34:07: But also we have this Very powerful audio That's just ready-to-go anytime.
00:34:14: In terms at the layout
00:34:15: Yeah I think there's definitely an like accessibility.
00:34:21: who have, people of all different needs and like Ed was saying it's important to accommodate that because we want everyone to have a good time.
00:34:29: I do think that is where you are super-important cos'you're always on hand
00:34:41: noticed when the stage was that side, people be coming in and then sometimes some people just need to get out of a space.
00:34:48: And if door's over there right past the stage you've got go through everyone.
00:34:52: it made little bit less comfortable.
00:34:55: so having at this point with your You know, route that you can escape up there.
00:35:00: That's one thing that just made it a little bit more accessible for people.
00:35:04: Yeah hundred percent.
00:35:05: and having the shop space upstairs where they can go.
00:35:07: And yeah They don't have to leave the venue but we can go in.
00:35:11: Just like take a minute all of our um Display cabinets upstairs.
00:35:16: We had them like custom-made so you can just...they're like roller shutters So you can wheel on down lock.
00:35:21: em Jobs are good then!
00:35:23: People could hang out when we've got bands on or whatever down here as well, which I think is it gives them that breathing room to lots of people definitely need.
00:35:32: And i think thats important for all venues.
00:35:34: sometimes the noise and intensity are people.
00:35:37: you know even I will just want a couple five minutes some times so get away from it ,so you can come back enjoy again.
00:35:43: yeah
00:35:44: was there moment open question where We've crushed this.
00:35:50: This is great with the speakers and with the sound, I mean was that like from The moment you had a gig or?
00:35:56: Was there a particular moment when you just thought this really works?
00:36:01: And i think for me it's going to be the velvet hand
00:36:03: Me too.
00:36:03: yeah That was like we fucking did it
00:36:06: all in place.
00:36:06: Yeah
00:36:07: It was like whole full room.
00:36:09: It was this set up um...the sounds were amazing.
00:36:13: everyone was rocking people coming in off the street that had never heard the band before, they were like this is amazing!
00:36:20: It was really fun.
00:36:22: What about you Babs?
00:36:23: Did you have a different one?
00:36:25: Well it just felt like all kind of came together... I don't know for me.. This is my first time managing a space For us on the team, opening and doing a venue And its intimidating when we've got I don't know how much it is, but i'm assuming fifty grand plus worth of gear.
00:36:47: Presents!
00:36:49: And
00:36:51: being like oh and... It just all came together in its right time.. ..and that was really beautiful.
00:36:58: also when we were talking about the speakers being intimidating.... ...I still feel like I've got a band on, I never engineered or am getting into it and then I like turn everything on, it just sounds so good.
00:37:11: And i know this almost sounds like a paid ad but really just... I don't know.
00:37:15: Ed set the desk up well we had gig on friday or thursday and I just turned it on.
00:37:21: It just sound so clear Like coming from playing gigs in pubs where its not clear and takes two hours to get guitar cut through.
00:37:33: that's whatever.
00:37:36: You know, that just feels so like reassuring and then I can have fun.
00:37:40: And everyone can have a phone.
00:37:43: Yeah
00:37:43: That's such a good point.
00:37:44: One of you said it earlier It is about very much the band feeling comfortable.
00:37:48: Then you'll have great performance Everything else but first and foremost About folks on stage Putting them in safe space to really express themselves.
00:37:58: Fantastic!
00:37:59: When do you get folks coming In seeing gigs experiencing gear How things are set up?
00:38:04: Is there something... Do people come and ask you about anything in particular?
00:38:09: Are people curious about something to do with the setup
00:38:12: here?".
00:38:13: I mean, yeah.
00:38:13: People are curious...I mean even when there's not gigs on people always asked like what is going on?
00:38:18: because these speakers if they were an amp it would be like but this massive rig where people want hear what its gonna go through these speakers.
00:38:30: so people are always intrigued absolutely.
00:38:34: That is so cool.
00:38:36: And I think one thing, the venue has been here a year and it might seem like long time but its still going through learning process.
00:38:45: So there's gonna be things that we're doing over next six months to develop system again make even more accessible for people.
00:38:54: We are looking at recording ideas being able set up desks.
00:39:01: I
00:39:02: think that's so fucking cool, because like you never get that in small venues ever.
00:39:07: It always sounds awful but
00:39:09: yeah
00:39:09: But you just don't even have the option.
00:39:11: So for people to be able do it here is a real... You and I see are going down there all
00:39:16: of the time
00:39:17: Nonstop!
00:39:18: Have
00:39:19: another member as staff.
00:39:21: Also its making things accessible too small at heart.
00:39:26: Its what's nice about why i feel proud being part two worlds colliding, which is the younger team and JBL team coming together in nothing other than just wanting to showcase And make a space.
00:39:42: It's so far from you know typical.
00:39:44: like industry capitalism.
00:39:47: We need to make money.
00:39:48: blah-blah.
00:39:48: There's always going be a thing of trying To cover our costs or whatever but it really and what's been told from me, from above is just like let's make this a cool space.
00:39:59: And having that freedom where we don't need to... You know you go to a venue in the charge of twenty quid for a fifty cap?
00:40:07: We don't have to do it!
00:40:09: We don' t need higher bands who are gonna bring... We can put whoever we want on, whoever brings vibe or has got their energy.
00:40:16: give them a chance Or even if its having open mic kind but curated like so far or whatever and then having the recording idea for artists.
00:40:28: I wouldn't get that chance.
00:40:29: You know, i think thats what's so important to me.
00:40:31: at least
00:40:32: yeah hundred percent.
00:40:33: And with my position in JBL Im lucky that people are reporting to supporting there.
00:40:39: That is definitely a longer term plan because it means if these developing artist can have you know, sort of bitter support then it's better for everyone.
00:40:52: And on the opening day that we did I think one of the bands i actually liked working with most was The First Band On and so they were not rabbit in the headlights, but they were right at the start of their thing.
00:41:08: And I think it appreciated them the most because... They're
00:41:11: good as well!
00:41:12: Yeah that's
00:41:12: a good yeah But we are enjoying here and they really appreciating.
00:41:17: so
00:41:18: she is really cool.
00:41:18: So yeah, but yet i think That Is It's giving people that opportunity and also?
00:41:24: I mean it is curated.
00:41:26: We want People to play here To be Good if you don't Want Them to suck.
00:41:29: but It's like Nirvana always said, they were so shit for five years because they would just rub it.
00:41:39: You have to play gigs to get better and you have to learn... And to have that support at such a small venue of amazing sound system.
00:41:47: people who understand it or want it to sound good is really important for expression not only for the careers but also express themselves
00:41:58: Because the venue isn't focused on having a bar or making money, you can almost have it.
00:42:03: It's like rehearsal space for people and so... like an audience at the same time as you're rehearsing, and it doesn't matter if you make a mistake or start talking halfway through.
00:42:14: You can have those learning experiences I think which are part of fun.
00:42:18: You know comedians do work in progress nights?
00:42:22: That's something that we've always discussed is... A working-progress gig for someone who's working progress.
00:42:28: Gig for somebody maybe bigger than this size venue but they want to try out some new stuff.
00:42:34: Yeah, it's a unique set up I think which is cool.
00:42:41: It
00:42:41: really is absolutely and you've kind of mentioned the word education there in the last sense.
00:42:45: on LL You're obviously the creative director here And it doesn't look anything like your classroom but i know it is very educational.
00:42:52: What's your approach to making sure that people are learning while they're here?
00:42:56: Definitely!
00:42:56: I think teaching education In non-traditional sense Is one Of The Most Important Things And I think, it's giving people that agency to learn themselves.
00:43:12: Giving them the tools and support but also empowering them to run with it and teach them themselves.
00:43:19: so we kind of set up a whole space in mind under tools everywhere.
00:43:25: Also an important bit is like... Come out and you know we're not like hold up in our offices will all come out and chat to the customers or fans.
00:43:37: Like whoever's hanging around whether that is me, Edd sometimes even Dom but Tristan everyone available be there accessible for people to ask questions and
00:43:51: understand.
00:43:51: I think that's one of the most important things.
00:43:53: actually, coming down here you'll get people just hanging out.
00:43:56: it is important to say hello to them make them feel because sometimes they can be a little bit intimidated.
00:44:03: so if i'd just say hello start off with all of sudden opens up That next level of conversation, which is important
00:44:09: and we don't kick them out.
00:44:10: if we're like obviously it's like confidential then It's different.
00:44:14: but for the most part what were doing isn't confidential.
00:44:17: We just
00:44:17: I get them to quietly sometimes.
00:44:19: Yeah
00:44:19: Fantastic yeah i think also Like The main thing that you are saying Is the transparency?
00:44:25: And like yeah fourth wall Isn't there.
00:44:27: i think thats whats unique.
00:44:31: We're not sitting people down and telling them how we are doing it, but It's so open that there is plenty of people who come by the shop.
00:44:38: I'm in a shop all time Who want to be musicians But also fashion And maybe management stuff And tell me about it, but also they can like see how its being done.
00:44:53: They know who's behind and sometimes you look at a brand-new... I don't know how that works whereas with us is very much like oh you know Elle Scholl she's the creative director, Nancy, Tristan, Bob?
00:45:04: You see them moving parts.
00:45:05: then think Oh i want to be like THAT and thats THAT part!
00:45:09: It just feels really see through.
00:45:13: We've even literally like, making physical that point.
00:45:18: We have the old school tailor's window in the shop upstairs where you can see through into the design studio.
00:45:24: so it does give people... I mean we do have a blind on it for when necessary but um.. It gives people insight and they could see the jewellery desk And Nancy Drawing.
00:45:34: Um....I think thats really important!
00:45:37: And also make videos of it which this has got me thinking we should one with you on the speakers, yeah.
00:45:44: Like a cinematic one cool and so we'll make videos of like how the process of things which I think would be... A Brack Cave One Would Be Really Sick.
00:45:55: Actually We Should Do That.
00:45:58: TLCR.
00:45:58: What's This Place?
00:45:59: You heard it here first!
00:46:01: Yes phenomenal that's so interesting.
00:46:04: i mean you kind of mentioned kind of radical transparency, if you like.
00:46:08: It's very empowering it's very inclusive and giving people visibility of places they can go in their career.
00:46:15: perhaps now U-three have had such incredibly interesting careers so far.
00:46:19: I mean do you think that there are opportunities Now?
00:46:23: In the music industry That maybe didn't exist when You started or Like.
00:46:27: Do you Think things Are opening up?
00:46:29: i mean you seem to be kind Of rewriting The rulebook here ?
00:46:31: I think in Dom's world definitely in the younger World he is I mean, i always say like he's put his money where his mouth is.
00:46:39: Like yeah... He's made this!
00:46:41: He's not just gone right?
00:46:43: I've had a hit..I'm gonna just sort of crack on with my shit.
00:46:47: He's like right we're going to make some for the people to go too and My friends are going to come work there And We're Going To Do It.
00:46:53: You Know I think that- I Mean This Is Like I would Say The Whole Young Good World As Non-Traditional.
00:46:58: Yeah And That's Yeah Given Us Space For
00:47:01: Yeah and as I said it's uh Maybe sort of a chance for people to have much wider range skill sets is important now and rather than just being you know, so straight down the line sound engineer You have to learn about other things as well.
00:47:16: part.
00:47:16: It's about understanding The People skills Understanding some of the bits in an around what happens with the show And then understanding the fact that venue like this is better because of the other bits up upstairs.
00:47:33: And so I think that's where career paths, certainly that's when my career path went and with the wider my skillset got easier it was to get involved in something like this.
00:47:45: um...and hopefully if people are coming down learning from these two maybe spending a little bit time on me thats what they might.
00:47:53: How fun though, make sure you're doing that.
00:47:59: Kind of what I was going to say is like it's none of its... It's not..I think nowadays we don't have to be defined by one job which is really important for all us because there are spaces where they do these different things.
00:48:13: One day you might be doing sound engineering and then the next time your playing a gig
00:48:19: Then the next day running a venue or worrying about the floorboard
00:48:25: one-time plummet coffee machine.
00:48:26: Yeah,
00:48:27: so be versatile have fun.
00:48:29: I mean this is solid advice for anyone listening and speaking of which if there's any tuning in or watching us on YouTube And you'd like to share a piece of advice with them?
00:48:37: In terms getting into the music industry are getting it audio.
00:48:40: What would that be?
00:48:42: Mine will keep fucking going.
00:48:46: It never linear.
00:48:49: a million lives in my life of like ups and downs, there is no peak point.
00:48:56: You don't hit the top of the mountain you just keep riding.
00:48:59: I mean it's a cliche for a reason but its true... It's hundred percent true!
00:49:03: Just have to take where can get it.
00:49:06: ride the wave see what happens.
00:49:08: try enjoy every bit find some joy because they're always is really cheesy.
00:49:17: Career point of view are the biggest things that has an impact.
00:49:21: It's the people you're with rather than what your doing.
00:49:24: and say You can have a job on paper looks like exactly The thing that you wanted to do.
00:49:30: And if he were just not with the right people, you're not gonna be enjoying it as much Whereas you can be doing something there?
00:49:36: He didn't think was What your aim was but she would write people then life is going to be great.
00:49:41: That's so true.
00:49:42: bye.
00:49:43: The reason that I worked at the Hawley Arms, it was... It worked there for years and years but the original reason is started.
00:49:49: I was a creative concept designer house of Fraser And got made redundant when sports direct took over.
00:49:56: What am i gonna do?
00:49:57: I need to pay my rent.
00:49:59: Started working in pub.
00:50:00: At this time.
00:50:01: I can't believe I'm working in a pub again!
00:50:03: I've been doing since I was fifteen.
00:50:06: The pub is where I met the love of my life, all my best friends.
00:50:09: Dom who's one of my best friend and now employs me in my dream job... None would have happened if it wasn't for that shimmy in my life.
00:50:20: so you just got to be like yeah people are most important.
00:50:23: Yeah i think as well.
00:50:23: what I was trying to say has trust In the path especially if your dreaming big.
00:50:29: keep on being determined And I think specially with me Wonky ways, but I think what people always tell me you know.
00:50:39: People that look up to is Just just follow him be determined and have faith.
00:50:44: And if it was written your way because a lot of the time You're like why are they fucking my back at The pub?
00:50:49: or?
00:50:49: Why am i here?
00:50:50: and he said well If It Was Your Way you'd Be bored.
00:50:52: you Know if you were the director for your life.
00:50:54: Where's the excitement?
00:50:55: and sometimes it does go Like This in in me Anders But I Think Just Keep keep Having Faith and Trying To Not predict the future.
00:51:04: You know, yeah.
00:51:06: Yeah
00:51:07: great advice
00:51:08: brilliant advice.
00:51:09: actually I'm in all I Know
00:51:11: Bobby's like twenty one as well.
00:51:13: He's so white twenty two.
00:51:14: Sorry sorry
00:51:15: That's awesome.
00:51:16: that such good advice sage advice my friends Brilliant thank you.
00:51:20: One of the things is it's so inspiring about what?
00:51:22: You're doing here.
00:51:24: It's not typical of this digital age where everything has sort of compartmentalized and its virtual And it's you know you are actually creating a space in real life where people can come together.
00:51:35: I mean, what do you see as the role of these kind of spaces?
00:51:39: In The Future Of Music and The Future of Communities...
00:51:43: I think they're imperative.
00:51:44: Yeah!
00:51:45: They are essential.
00:51:46: We're leasing too many of them to quickly.
00:51:49: I think that while obviously sort of digital age on social media is important People get a lot support from it.
00:51:56: The in real-life thing needs to be treasured and supported.
00:52:02: If you, once you lose those spaces it's very hard to get them back.
00:52:06: This is why this is such an interesting sort of project because we're actually creating something new or these two are and I'm on the side a little bit.
00:52:15: That
00:52:15: almost definitely has none if this would exist without you either!
00:52:20: And yeah i think its really important.
00:52:24: I think so be in somebody who's off digital age and coming out of lockdown at like sixteen or whatever, feeling very much scared off going out.
00:52:36: It is about making a place in Tyson because the truth for me it's that I don't go out as much.
00:52:41: maybe you lot did when we were my age Because its almost sometimes intimidating And there are so many things You can do at home.
00:52:49: All these endorphins which sounds crazy to say but reality But why would i go out?
00:52:55: Its trying build this space where Time where things are expensive can we make it more affordable?
00:53:02: Well, you know time.
00:53:03: We feel at least I feel a little bit judged coming Make It like More You Know free and then build on that kind of space.
00:53:11: It is hard i think its Is imperative but Its easier said than done to make A Space For people to come, I'm off that generation.
00:53:20: But i do find it hard to go out because there's so much... We lived at home for two years and we were addicted to my phone or whatever.
00:53:28: You
00:53:28: can't just open a space and expect it to work you have to give it like heart And give its spirit which is what you do.
00:53:36: So well here Bobby Is the heart of this place Like The beating heart.
00:53:42: That's why People Come Because It Yeah Yeah, which is that's more important than anything.
00:53:49: Yeah
00:53:50: leading the way it's leading away with like bringing our friends down here being passionate you know showing It through social media but showing it be in real and then people might want to join.
00:53:59: yeah You know?
00:54:00: That is genuinely beautiful.
00:54:02: I love it brilliant.
00:54:03: But like Ed coming over yourself from there was your kind of pro audio hat on.
00:54:08: When people come down here And they actually see this setup do you think it broadens their horizons about what's possible?
00:54:13: because it's not every day pro-audio gear in the world?
00:54:17: I mean it's not a, but its such an important part of what people used to sort get when they were going to gigs and going to shows.
00:54:28: And i think that for certainly as Bobby was saying ,people who can come down you know, being a little bit scared or having to pay for ticket and seeing it.
00:54:42: It's all of the sudden gonna just make people realise that okay... ...that is world.
00:54:47: maybe I'll be interested in.
00:54:48: That is part of the mechanism that goes on behind it.
00:54:53: People are used to seeing arena shows Or festivals All these big organisations that are huge, huge activities for huge teams of staff.
00:55:05: To be able to also see it happens at a grassroot level and this is the world as well.
00:55:12: I think its important And in some ways it's not... The pro audio is an important part but there is another bit around it thats almost more interesting.
00:55:22: Yeah, phenomenal.
00:55:22: That's absolutely beautiful!
00:55:24: I mean just...I was noticing your JBL t-shirt there and of course we are here celebrating you know this year the eightieth anniversary of JBL The Most Youthful Brands.
00:55:32: that's eighty years old i've ever come across.
00:55:34: uh And so we're kind of talking about the past ,the present & the future Of audio.
00:55:38: So..i'm wondering Just an open question to all of ya When do you think About the Future of Sound?
00:55:43: The Future of Audio?
00:55:44: ?The Future of Music?
00:55:44: ?
00:55:45: The Future?
00:55:47: What gives you the most hope or what excites your the most about future?
00:55:50: The fucking kids.
00:55:52: Have a look at it, they love it!
00:55:55: They care so much.
00:55:57: and especially I'm the same as Bobby.
00:56:00: like i didn't grow up as young blood fan because I am old So he did not exist when I was teenager.
00:56:07: It's
00:56:07: all relative but
00:56:11: that community if ever go to a Young Blood show.
00:56:17: spirit and excitement, care and hope of the audience is just unbelievable.
00:56:25: The kids are going to save us a hundred percent!
00:56:28: Yeah I really think that.
00:56:30: And i think it's important for technology brands to support their creativity... ...and make it interesting and easy for people today.
00:56:38: That's why I love this product.
00:56:40: obviously there was little bit of conversation but You know, attractive.
00:56:45: It makes it easy for people that are learning in something which again can be quite intimidating when you're dealing with the pro stuff and so I think there's a lot of people who design.
00:56:57: technology is one thing we've got to keep in touch with particularly with the specter of AI hanging over us in a whole load of creative things, we've actually got to make sure that people are still... Even if you're not doing it to make money.
00:57:17: just creating for the sake or creating is worth doing.
00:57:20: That makes you feel alive.
00:57:22: so to make it easy for people to do that.
00:57:25: Yeah Bobby said this was like a playroom before with all the exciting toys and I think that's so important, playing being able to express yourself.
00:57:37: Still do that,
00:57:38: yeah.
00:57:38: I think what you said earlier really resonated with me about having so many tools but maybe almost getting overwhelmed with it.
00:57:46: and i think an important kind of distinction is remember why are making them?
00:57:52: Why your performing not lost in the perfection off... What!
00:57:57: I think thats like almost a balance And its exciting.
00:58:00: whats hopeful Is the amount of possibilities ive going to have through advancement But also through affordability.
00:58:07: And but yeah, it's always just remembering what the source is.
00:58:12: It's a fight to keep access for that people and not be like you say affordability opportunity even culturally.
00:58:25: I think its fighting.
00:58:26: make sure they still have room play an experiment express But one worth having
00:58:35: Absolutely.
00:58:36: It's very much worth fighting for, well thank you all my dear friends for fighting the good fight.
00:58:39: I've got one more question and it is that we ask everyone from Imogen Heap to A.R.
00:58:45: Rahman, to Martin Garrix and they all get to choose a track for our title playlist.
00:58:50: so this can represent your hope for the future of music?
00:58:53: For The Overlap Of The Next Generation with technology or just one that you like?
00:58:57: listening too on these lovely speakers And Edd You look Like You're Ready To Jump In With Us
00:59:06: I feel frozen by it.
00:59:07: Wait i'm gonna go for my... Your least favourite My favourite Yeah, a hundred gecks.
00:59:13: dumbest girl alive.
00:59:15: I love playing it loud through these speakers because It's such a like violent aggro noise of instruments.
00:59:24: but the speaker is so good you can hear all the intricacies and i think its makes you want to dance.
00:59:30: we always dance when it comes on even if sounds awful.
00:59:40: punky, poppy fun Exciting and they're like new and progressive and mental that band.
00:59:48: So yeah That's my favorite
00:59:50: killer.
00:59:51: fantastic Thank you.
00:59:52: Who is ready to jump in?
00:59:55: Okay gone out I'm gonna go.
00:59:57: shoegaze are always go shoe gaze II but Kick the tragedy by Drop Nineteens.
01:00:06: I think it's like completely opposite.
01:00:08: He so cool Bobby, but
01:00:09: he's more.
01:00:10: So if I wanted to like think about on this speaker It's like nine minutes long But it's also just like a wall of sound that like yeah
01:00:19: add
01:00:20: urge people To listen too.
01:00:22: outstanding thank you.
01:00:23: i'm looking forward to That very much.
01:00:25: and head how do You follow?
01:00:27: Oh With difficulty.
01:00:31: Am I allowed?
01:00:32: Definitely.
01:00:33: I was going to say we should have a bonus Young Blood song.
01:00:35: So there's
01:00:37: a track that someone played me by an artist called Wren, Hello Wren and I would watch the whole video about it.
01:00:49: It is amazing.
01:00:51: And then another one will go on your playlist which maybe these guys need to listen too.
01:00:58: A band called K's Choice song all paralyzed in me, which when we were sort of like our growing up.
01:01:06: We listened to that and yeah
01:01:08: check them out.
01:01:11: Can I put you really on the spot now?
01:01:13: And you have to choose a young blood track to go on the playlist as well.
01:01:16: I know what you're going to choose but
01:01:17: you do.
01:01:18: Funeral now.
01:01:18: Yeah
01:01:19: my favourite's funeral.
01:01:20: But then i was thinking is hope for The Underrated Youth an album or a song?
01:01:25: Oh...I think it's an album.
01:01:27: No no its just a song.
01:01:29: album is twenty-first century like because
01:01:31: it should be hoped for the underrated youth surely.
01:01:34: yeah
01:01:35: i think that's a song.
01:01:36: um
01:01:37: if its a song
01:01:38: we'll just put whatever it is, we're putting it
01:01:40: on.
01:01:41: Put all of them in an album one hundred
01:01:42: percent no problem that's great.
01:01:44: do you want to choose your young blood track as well?
01:01:46: uh I think hella haven't though I know it's kind of cliche but yeah
01:01:49: another nine minute that
01:01:50: was that was the one that had the impact on me seeing him play live for the first time.
01:01:55: oh that's
01:01:58: Oh, phenomenal.
01:01:59: Okay my own contribution to the plate is just something that thank you a bit kind of... Different, and it feels very fresh to me.
01:02:06: It's an artist called Nina Gioracci who is from Australia And her album was called I Love My Computer in a super fascinating.
01:02:12: She does all this multimedia stuff and the track is All At Once.
01:02:16: So i hope you enjoy my friends.
01:02:18: So listen.
01:02:18: thank you so much for joining us.
01:02:20: Thank You Bobby!
01:02:22: Thank you!
01:02:23: That has been absolutely wonderful.
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